Concise Minutes - Public Accounts and Public Administration Committee

Meeting Venue:

Hybrid – Committee Rom 4 Tŷ Hywel and video conference via Zoom

Meeting date: Wednesday, 15 October 2025

Meeting time: 09.17 - 10.34
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/15625

Hybrid

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Attendance

Category	Names
Members of the Senedd:	Mark Isherwood MS (Chair) Samuel Kurtz MS Mike Hedges MS Cefin Campbell MS
Witnesses:	Dr Simon Williams, Expert Advisor
Committee Staff:	Fay Bowen (Clerk) Owain Davies (Clerk) Lowri Jones (Deputy Clerk) Adrian Crompton (Auditor General for Wales) Matthew Mortlock (Audit Wales)

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1 Introductions, apologies, substitutions, and declarations of interest

1.1 The Chair welcomed Members to the meeting.

1.2 Apologies were received from Adam Price MS, Tom Giffard MS and Rhianon Passmore MS. Sameul Kurtz MS and Cefin Campbell MS attended in place of Tom Giffard MS and Adam Price MS.

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2 Paper(s) to note

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2.1 Gilestone Farm: Welsh Government's response to the Committee's report

2.1 The response was noted.

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3 Motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting

3.1 The motion was agreed.

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4 Consideration of the UK Covid-19 Inquiry Module 1 Report: briefing from Dr Simon Williams

4.1 The Committee received a briefing from Dr Simon Williams.

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5 Gilestone Farm: Consideration of Welsh Government's response to the Committee's report

5.1 The Committee considered the response and agreed to write to Welsh Government.

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